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<p class="MsoNormal">Some IDE drives have jumpers to reduce capacity, ususally to 6GB which older controllers will cap at the older limit of 500(512?) MB.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d probably recommend some kind of IDE to flash device. Not only are mechanical drives prone to failure, they are also SLOW…</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:retronet@mailman.chivanet.org">Wossen Wyatt via retronet</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, April 10, 2019 11:33 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:jason.r.stevens@live.com">Jason Stevens</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:wossen.wyatt@wossman.net">Wossen Wyatt</a>; <a href="mailto:gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net">
Grant Taylor</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [retronet] Hi. I'm new here.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Whoops. Missed this one.)<br>
<br>
The multibooting I was talking about was on the Win 3.1 PC, not the Suns. At<br>
least not the Ultra45.<br>
<br>
I'm still finding nuggets of info one youtube video at a time for getting<br>
old stuff to work. Like I just learned recently that OpenStep won't book<br>
from a hard disk larger than 2 gigs. That explains why all my VM installs<br>
have failed on first boot after setup. I thought a 4 gig drive would be<br>
small enough, but it wasn't. And the boot error didn't give any hint at what<br>
might be the problem.<br>
<br>
The smallest IDE drive I have is 40 gigs and I'm skeptical of buying truly<br>
small drives on ebay since they'd be so old. But I found this little gem<br>
(<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001JTO782/">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001JTO782/</a>) that will let me easily swap CF<br>
cards through the rear of a PCI slot bracket and those come in suitably<br>
small sizes so as soon as I get one imported I'm off to the races. (I live<br>
in Guyana, South America, btw, so sourcing hardware is tougher than it<br>
should be.)<br>
<br>
I'll post pics and maybe video of some of this stuff in due time. Especially<br>
MAE if I get it to work. :-)<br>
<br>
Ciao,<br>
W.<br>
<br>
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From: retronet<br>
<retronet-bounces+wossen.wyatt=wossman.net@mailman.chivanet.org> On Behalf<br>
Of Grant Taylor via retronet<br>
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 11:14 PM<br>
To: Wossen Wyatt <wossen.wyatt@wossman.net><br>
Cc: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net><br>
Subject: Re: [retronet] Hi. I'm new here.<br>
<br>
On 4/8/19 8:43 PM, Wossen Wyatt via retronet wrote:<br>
> Hi Folks.<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
> I'm new here.<br>
<br>
Welcome.<br>
<br>
> I stumbled across the Datashed while googling Sun stuff and I'm quite<br>
> impressed.<br>
<br>
Yep, John has some nice equipment.<br>
<br>
> I've recently acquired a Sun Ultra 45 and a Sun Fire v40z and I'm<br>
> looking for interesting things to do with them and a community to<br>
> share it with.<br>
><br>
> I also have an oldnforce-based Sempron system that i run Windows 3.1<br>
> on (It's the only desktop system I have with IDE and floppy support on<br>
> the<br>
> mobo) and I'm planning to try OS/2 and OpenStep on it. Hopefully I can<br>
> get them all to multi-boot.<br>
<br>
Multibooting the Suns will be a neat trick. In at least that I don't know<br>
how to go about it. I guess you can boot off of different disks. ;-)<br>
<br>
If you're new to OS/2, I'd recommend 4 or 4.5 as they are most likely to<br>
work on non-ancient (more ancient than you have) hardware. There are also<br>
some updated boot disks online that have different drivers and other<br>
modifications to work with newer equipment. My biggest problem was with<br>
OS/2 not liking my hard drives. I think they were too big for the boot disk<br>
from IBM to work with. (Hence the updates.)<br>
<br>
If you don't have the boot disks (just a CD / ISO), you can extract images<br>
off of the CD.<br>
<br>
OS/2 has it's own boot manager that is designed to allow multiple operating<br>
systems (from the mid to late '90s) boot from it. It will play nicer with<br>
others. The same can't be said about Windows 9x.<br>
MS-DOS & Windows 3.x will likely be okay. Windows NT 4 should be okay too.<br>
I remember it being a game of what to install in what order to be able to<br>
get all the OSs on the system without stomping on each others boot loader.<br>
<br>
There is also the possibility of a boot manager like System Commander.<br>
(That's what I used in the late '90s.) I think some version of PowerQuest's<br>
Partition Magic also had Boot Magic. They helped. I know that System<br>
Commander had something to prepare the machine for the new OS. It would<br>
sort of temporarily hide the existing OS(s) from the OS that you were<br>
installing so that it couldn't mess things up (as easily).<br>
<br>
There was an art to it. But it was fun. And multi-booting multiple OSs<br>
from the '90s will get techies from the time to raise an eyebrow. How high<br>
is dependent on the number of OSs and complexity. }:-)<br>
<br>
I've not personally messed with OpenStep. So I can't comment about that.<br>
<br>
> Is this list still active?<br>
<br>
Yes. Well, it's been idle as we've been busy with other things life has<br>
thrown out.<br>
<br>
Again, welcome. I look forward to reading about your progress, and trials<br>
and tribulations. :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Grant. . . .<br>
unix || die<br>
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